Simon & Schuster executives open up to The Wall Street Journal about their book deal with Mike Pence and why they’re not backing down

Media outlets continue to report on tensions surrounding the book deal that Simon & Schuster struck with Mike Pence in March. Partly that’s because Simon & Schuster has continued to discuss the matter internally through town halls. Soundbites from those meetings leak to the press or onto Twitter, and employees have been speaking on the record about their frustrations. During one of these town halls (summarized at The New Republic), CEO Jonathan Karp framed the disagreement as a battle between social justice and freedom of speech. But as many people have pointed out, freedom of speech doesn’t mean “entitled to a multi-million-dollar book deal from Simon & Schuster.” Over at Vox, there’s a discussion of “Who deserves a book deal?” That article frames the question as both a generational battle and existential crisis for publishing.

The May 21 report in The Wall Street Journal (subscription required) has both CEO Jonathan Karp and publisher Dana Canedy on the record with their perspective on the decision. Karp’s thinking seems to have evolved away from freedom-of-speech arguments; instead, he said Simon & Schuster is committed to publishing a broad range of views and emphasized the compelling nature of the role Pence played in US history. “We don’t want to be a niche publisher,” he said. “The former vice president, who got 74 million votes, is representative of a broad range of people.” Later, Karp said, “A lot of people were deeply upset and threatened by the last four years and want the country to change.” He added, “They think by changing companies they can change the country.”

When asked why Simon & Schuster didn’t move ahead with publication of Senator Hawley’s book, Karp said Hawley’s actions “led to a dangerous threat to our democracy” and that the senator’s role in the events of Jan. 6 “brought widespread disapproval and outrage to him and would have redounded to us.”

Canedy, who is Black, told The Wall Street Journal she met with Pence to discuss the book deal and what the publisher would expect from him. “Everybody has the right to own their narrative and legacy, and he didn’t own it at that point,” she told The Wall Street Journal. “The Trump administration did.” She told Pence he had a right to tell his story—but that he would also have to answer in the book for how he is perceived by some racial minorities.